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Post Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:17 am

Noobies

When i first came to TLR only recently i was given a great welcome. My first question was with relation to my failure to get beyond level 38. Thankfully Finalday was quick to tell me i won't, at least not on SP. (broadband won't arrive to my area untill march '05 at which time my horse and cart will also be due upgrading so i've started the game yet again. )

yesterday a new recruit called TiatanA.E. asked a similar question in the same place i did. it appeared on the FLdiscussion board and was deemed to be a spoiler, correctly so by current site rules, therefore it was moved. granted Titan appeared to know that level 38 was max but wanted to get more from the game by finding out where and what all the best weps were.

my question is both specific and general. in this particular case when Titan returns to check the answer the post will be missing. no forewarding address seems to have been left, there was a time delay between the original post and the change of forum but no sign Titan could have known about the suggestion made about moving it. if i'm wrong then...oooooopps!!! if that had been me i may have retuned to gamefaqs.com to continue my search not knowing where i had gone wrong

is there a way we can answer questions posted by new recruits in the future without bouncing them to a different forum. i'm not at all tech orientated but i hate people who olny see problems and never suggest solutions. perhaps one of these might work:

1: a new forum along the lines of "new recruit? something you need to know about FL but never knew who to ask?" ---could have a spoilers warning attatched.

2: answer the question, ask the new recruit to post an aknowledgement. then let them know it is to be moved to "spoilers" for further discussion.

my personal pref.

3: answer by simply posting a link in the original post to the part of TLR where you have replicated the original in its correct place. then lock out the first copy. on returning the recruit could find the post, the link, and all further discussion would be routed to the copy on "spoilers"

they are only suggestions.

edit Druid, I'm very often the one who moves spoilers. I always email the original sender and tell them where their thread has been moved to. Another reason we insist on having valid email addresses. I don't email all who've replied though.
Boscoe



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Edited by - Boscoe on 12/27/2004 5:55:46 AM

Post Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:31 am

Druid in general if a thread is moved we email the creator of the thread.
Thanks for the suggestions though

Post Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:50 pm

Don't blame me Druid; I was only trying to follow the rules *sniff* .

Post Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:43 am

I do usually leave the thread in the wrong forum with a note to the creator that I will move it. The thread gets moved after I am satisfied that they have seen it.

Post Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:34 pm

@sych, always nice to know big sister is watching, douple plus good

noob blame esqui, as my post said, the move was right by "current rules n' regs"

i'm jus' never gotto hoffer dah' poor Titan sod any GB's. ( i'm keepsy 'un frum may furs encounter of a sdrenge kine whiyou so i's coud pass on the des favours ju noh yhesh? )

@ chips: nice n' symple. just like me!!!



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Post Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:54 pm

correct spelling is newbies
sorry for relevance

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Post Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:31 pm

ok here we go...
i'll point this out:

newbies are people who are new at something (like being new in a community) and they want to learn more and make friends etc etc etc

noobs are general ass holes who want to know things but dont want to listen to answers or learn anything. they just keep posting the same question reguardless of if their question is answered or not. they are also know for spamming and excessive flaming

(which reminds me of the goold ol days with the flame retardant suits....i miss those days)


i did not use any photoshop on this (except to cut the surrounding page off) whatsoever...just a simple edit of the URL...its fascinating how easy it actually is to name things after they are made
i mean...all teh link is to this forum is a link to the actual forum...and the name is made depending on what the url says....fascinating
did this sig make sense? email me at [email protected] to report my sense!

Edited by - Wolf_Demon on 12/28/2004 10:00:28 PM

Post Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:07 pm

oh ok

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Post Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:12 pm

I. What is this?
II. Defining 'Noob'
B. COMMON NOOB CHARACTERISTICS
I. Noobish
II. Where to find noobs
III. Behavior of noobs
IV. Noob religion
V. More about noob habitats
C. AVOIDING NOOBS
I. Make sure you aren't one
II. Major noob avoiding strategies
A. INTRO
I. What is this?
This guide is designed to give you a better understanding of what a noob is, how to recognize them, some details about them, and how to avoid or get rid of them. It mostly applies to online forums, which are the main targets of migrating noobs.
II. Defining 'Noob'
Contrary to the belief of many, a noob/n00b and a newbie/newb are not the same thing. Newbs are those who are new to some task* and are very beginner at it, possibly a little overconfident about it, but they are willing to learn and fix their errors to move out of that stage. Noobs, on the other hand, know little and have no will to learn any more. They expect people to do the work for them and then expect to get praised about it, and make up a unique species of their own. It is the latter we will study in this guide so that the reader is prepared to encounter them in the wild if needed.
Noobs are often referred to as n00bs as a sign of disrespect toward them, and it's often hella funny, but I will refer to them as noobs during this reading.
* Usually the topic at hand on an internet forum.
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B. COMMON NOOB CHARACTERISTICS
I. Noobish
Often, but not always, noobs will attempt to communicate in their own primitive language, known as noobish. It is a variant of the hacker language that exposes them as having little intelligence or will to learn. Here is an example of some noobish. Do not attempt to comprehend it: it cannot be discerned without professionals at hand.
stFU /\/\an, i r teh r0xx0rz liek emin3m, u cna go tO EHLL OR ATLE4St help m3 wit hthIS!!111!!!!!!!1~~1!!``!! LOLLOLOLLOLOLlOoLLOlollLLl u n00b
Although you may find this unbelievably funny and/or annoying, it is best to restrain yourself and keep from talking back to them, as they are very territorial and easily angered. This will result in their attempted verbal abuse of you, possibly backed up by other noobs, because they work in packs when doing offensive tasks. It is not an easy task to learn this language because our intelligent accent will keep it from sounding quite right when spoken. You can write some simple noobish of your own, however, by slamming your face into your keyboard repeatedly.
II. Where to find noobs
On the internet, noobs make their colonies on forums. They migrate in waves, usually on weekends, and proceed to clog up bandwidth with stupid questions and sometimes even stupid answers. If you happen to be unfortunate enough to be on a board large enough to attract migrating noobs, there will hopefully be authority in charge who is smart enough to take extermination measures before they can make nests and larger colonies.
Larger colonies can result in the mutation of some into spammers. Not commercial spammers, but pointless spammers. A noob can become one of these at any point, but the larger the amount of noobs, the more chance pointless spammers will appear.
Off the internet, noobs appear anywhere the focus is on learning or discussing something specific.
III. Behavior of noobs
Since noobs are basically ignorant bastards, they have a lot in common. The most often seen characteristic is their fluency in noobish, which is why it got its own section. They will also be very self confident as if they were the absolute best at what they are in fact the worst at. Also, they are quite agressive and self-centered, and tend to laugh a lot using many L's and O's in rapid sucession (the noobish word for laughing like an ultimate retard).
It is their instinct to assemble in packs for defense, and they often attempt to organize packs that they call teams. Unfortunately for them, teams usually result in a total loss of communication and they can often begin to fight amongst each other. These teams are quite unlike those formed by non-noobs.
Noobs have difficulty reading english and cannot comprehend the idea of authority.
Therefore, they have an all-out disregard for rules, basic or not. A good way to identify a noob (bad) vs. a newb (good) is to tell them (or have an authority tell them) which rule they are unknowingly breaking. If they respond with an apology and fix it, they are probably not a noob. If they react by insulting everything around them in rapid noobish and causing general mayhem, it is because they are a noob and have had a small seizure due to their inability to understand what is happening.
IV. Noob religion
Noobs follow a variation of the 1337 (sometimes 7331) religion, in which they worship the number in odd rituals and put altars in their forum avatars and signatures. They often call themselves 1337, which experts say is somewhat like calling themselves godly in a human language. It's best to not interfere with their religious fantasies and practices because that can lead to a noob uprising, which can turn a forum to mush in less than a week.
V. More about noob habitats
Noobs often attempt to maintain their own web pages. Some common features of these lairs are a terrible lack of content, background music, lots of pointless animated gifs, and pages that say some variation of 'tHEir isnothinG H34r yEtt LOLLOLOL!111!1!!~~~!!`! 13371337', which means 'Nothing here yet' in noobish.
They will also have large, seemingly infinite marquees of 88X31 affiliate buttons replaced with red X's scattered here and there, and possibly a hit counter showing a number less than 100. These habitats are numerous but fairly easy to avoid because only noobs link to them. So if you can identify a noob, don't go to its homepage. Simple as that.
C. AVOIDING NOOBS
I. Make sure you aren't one
Note: This section is bilingual so even noobs can make the discovery if they haven't already.
English (T4lk)-
Read the above parts of this guide carefully. If you find yourself unable to comprehend any of it but are instead beginning to think about how great you are and how awesome 'teh 1337' is, you might want to take one of the many available online quizzes to check your noobancy.
Noobish (133713371337)- Liek, u gott4 re3D teh gudieCAREFUl1y and tehn OMG LIEK I AM R0XX0RZ ya anD ify 0u turn into teh reTARDED u gota go 2 MY WEBP4GE LOLLOLOL!!111~11 ad check 4 warez n stfuu. if u r a n00b go2HELL LOLLOLOlROFLMFAO11!!!11!!!! a/s/l pos gtg n00b suxx0rz ur b0xx0rz OLOOOLOLLLL HELP HELP HELP 1337133713371337
II. Major noob avoiding strategies
The main factor in attracting migrating herds of noobs is a large, active forum. If you find one of these, look to see if it has the management to avoid noob infestation. If not, look for a small or mid-sized forum that covers the same topic so you can enjoy your time there before the noobs find it.
Another way to keep noobs from interfering with your life is to become part of the authority on one of these forums. But that's often hard to do so you'll probably be better off avoiding larger forums first off. If you do manage to become part of the authority, however, take full advantage of it and establish extermination policies so that normal people can have a nice time without noob infestations.

Post Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:54 am

@master cheif: master piece ! laughed a lot, like your sense of humour.

*looks around* *whispering*: could anybody explain to me what 1337 means ?

Post Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:16 pm

i dont think he made it up? i saw it here before, maybe it was him?

1337 translated to english is "leet" which means absolutely nothing. but 1337 means something like "elite, awsome, cool" or anything else along the lines of that. go ahead, ask me more questions about "noobs" i know all about them

Post Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:59 pm

That's because Wolfy is still a "n00b" at heart .

Post Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:06 am

I know i could rely on you guys here

Do not attempt to comprehend it: it cannot be discerned without professionals at hand.


Comments:
B III style:
WTF? WTF?? WDyM ??? WTHDYThYA !?? I ain't be phatt coooolish miselph ?? GTH kwik YSOAB.

A II 'newb' style:
Where do you know all about noobs from ? Can you send us a link ? Where can I inscribe for beta-testing ?

C III (yes !):
n00bs don't drink ginger beer

Post Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:20 am

I have just read this thread and have realized that The Master Cheif's noob/mewbiw guide is almost egzactly like the one posted almost a year earlier on tibianews.net

in otherwords HE PLAGERIZED IT!

highly illeagal and insulting

i think he has some legal apologizing to do

"If im phased and can walk through stuff, then why am I not falling through the floor?"

Post Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:29 am

1. He doesn't claim it.
2. Your over-reacting
3. This is a website - not a book/cd/video - or otherwise saleable medium
4. Its not against the law anyway.




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